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General

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Series

Ergo Series1Maker product pagelogitech.com/en-us/shop/p/lift-vertical-ergonomic-mouseRead 10 October 2026Page breadcrumb: Ergo Series

EM Series6Maker product pageprotoarc.com/collections/em-seriesRead 15 October 2026The EM Series collection page lists the EM11 NL.

Model numbersiMaker identifiers for this exact model and its listed variants. Excludes sibling models and other generations.

910-006466, 910-006469, 910-006472, 910-007663, MR00941Maker product pagelogitech.com/en-us/shop/p/lift-vertical-ergonomic-mouseRead 10 October 2026US store SKUs: Graphite 910-006466, Off-white 910-006469, Rose 910-006472, Sand 910-007663. The left-handed Lift Left (Graphite 910-006467) is a separate left-handed model and is not covered here. MR0094 is the mouse model number on the support page2Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/17743180034327Read 10 October 2026Mouse model number MR0094, on the bottom of the mouse

CP014943, CP015642, CP015639, CP017425, CP015641, CP015640, CP015951, CP016808, CP016806, CP016807, CP0174262Maker product pageprotoarc.com/products/em11-nl-vertical-mouse.jsonRead 15 October 2026The maker's store feed lists these SKUs by colour. ProtoArc calls them SKUs. Black CP014943, White CP015642, Blue CP015639, Black Pink CP017425, Gray CP015641, Green CP015640, Red CP015951, Pink CP016808, Gold CP016806, White Gold CP016807, Purple CP017426.

GTIN / EAN

09785517092715Retailer pagezoro.com/c/i/G214907895Read 10 October 2026Retailer lists manufacturer number 910-006466 (Graphite) with UPC 97855170927, which is the 12 digit UPC 097855170927 without its leading zero. The 12 digit UPC is stored. Only the Graphite barcode is known

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AnnouncediThe maker's first announcement of this model. This is separate from first retail availability.

19 April 20226Press releasenews.logitech.com/press-releases/news-details/2022/Meet-Lift-Logitechs-New-Vertical-Ergonomic-MouseRead 10 October 2026

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Status

Available1Maker product pagelogitech.com/en-us/shop/p/lift-vertical-ergonomic-mouseRead 10 October 2026Page shows In stock. Ready to ship at US$79.99

Available1Maker product pageprotoarc.com/products/em11-nl-vertical-mouseRead 15 October 2026Page shows the mouse in stock at 26.99 USD.

PredecessoriThe model this one directly replaced, in the same line, tier and size, as the maker or a trusted review names it.

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SuccessoriThe model that directly replaced this one, in the same line, tier and size. A revision such as a Slim or OLED model does not count when a next generation exists.

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Launch price (US)iThe maker's US launch MSRP for the stated configuration, excluding tax. Current store prices and later discounts do not qualify.

$69.996Press releasenews.logitech.com/press-releases/news-details/2022/Meet-Lift-Logitechs-New-Vertical-Ergonomic-MouseRead 10 October 2026$69.99 USD suggested retail. The shop page now lists $79.99

$26.993Maker product pageweb.archive.org/web/20240524135212/https://www.protoarc.com/products/em11-nl-vertical-mouseRead 15 October 2026Archived copy of the maker's page from 2024-05-24 shows 26.99 USD with no compare-at price. US price excludes tax.

Launch price (EU)iThe maker's euro launch price for the stated configuration, including VAT as published. Current store prices and later discounts do not qualify.

€69.9914Press articleprofesionalreview.com/2022/04/20/logitech-lift-raton-vertical-69-99-euros/ampRead 10 October 2026Launch report: price for Spain 69.99 EUR, available in April 2022. Tax treatment not stated, assumed as shown to consumers in Spain

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MarketsiISO country or region codes where this exact model or variant is sold. A source page's language does not establish availability.

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ColoursiThe maker's own colour names

Graphite, Off-white, Rose, Sand1Maker product pagelogitech.com/en-us/shop/p/lift-vertical-ergonomic-mouseRead 10 October 2026Color options on the US page: Graphite, Off-white, Rose, Sand6Press releasenews.logitech.com/press-releases/news-details/2022/Meet-Lift-Logitechs-New-Vertical-Ergonomic-MouseRead 10 October 2026Launch colors were rose, off-white and graphite. Left-handed version in graphite only. Sand is newer

Black, White, Blue, Black Pink, Gray, Green, Red, Pink, Gold, White Gold, Purple1Maker product pageprotoarc.com/products/em11-nl-vertical-mouseRead 15 October 2026Colour selector lists Black, White, Blue, Black Pink, Gray, Green, Red, Pink, Gold, White Gold and Purple.

Segment

Ergonomic1Maker product pagelogitech.com/en-us/shop/p/lift-vertical-ergonomic-mouseRead 10 October 2026Listed in the Ergo Series

Ergonomic1Maker product pageprotoarc.com/products/em11-nl-vertical-mouseRead 15 October 2026Page title and copy position it as an ergonomic vertical mouse for natural wrist posture.

Mouse type

Vertical10Measurementrtings.com/mouse/reviews/logitech/liftRead 10 October 2026Type: Vertical

Vertical1Maker product pageprotoarc.com/products/em11-nl-vertical-mouseRead 15 October 2026

Shape

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Body shapeiDescribes shell symmetry, not the intended hand. Symmetrical with side buttons on one side differs from an asymmetric right-handed body. Ambidextrous means a symmetrical body with side buttons on both sides.

Asymmetric, right-handed10Measurementrtings.com/mouse/reviews/logitech/liftRead 10 October 2026Ambidextrous: No. The right-handed Lift

Asymmetric, right-handed7Spec databasepreisvergleich.heise.de/protoarc-em11-nl-a3825649.htmlRead 15 October 2026Heise spec list: Eignung rechte Hand (vertikal).

Maker size classiThe maker’s marketed size label. Do not infer a size class from dimensions or reviewer hand-fit recommendations.

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Recommended gripsiGrip styles explicitly recommended by the maker. A reviewer finding a grip usable does not add a maker recommendation.

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Recommended hand sizeiMaker recommendation, measured from wrist to middle fingertip for hand length. Source notes specify whether limits are inclusive or exclusive.

Hand length (max)190mm4Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/5127047425303-Getting-Started-LIFT-Vertical-Ergonomic-MouseRead 10 October 2026Lift is designed for a small-to-medium-sized fit. The size chart on the page gives small as under 17.5 cm, medium as 17.5 to 19.0 cm and large as over 19.0 cm. Stored as a maximum length of 190 mm. The chart image does not say where the hand is measured, which is hand length

Hand length (max)195mm1Maker product pageprotoarc.com/products/em11-nl-vertical-mouseRead 15 October 2026Image on the page says recommended for small to medium hand, hand < 7.5 in / 195 mm. The size chart marks under 6.9 in small, 6.9 to 7.5 in medium and over 7.5 in large. Stored as an exclusive upper limit. No lower limit is published.

Hump positioniPosition of the shell’s highest point along its length, from a maker drawing or exact-model review.

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Thumb rest

Yes1Maker product pagelogitech.com/en-us/shop/p/lift-vertical-ergonomic-mouseRead 10 October 2026Page: soft rubber grip and comfy thumb rest

Yes7Spec databasepreisvergleich.heise.de/protoarc-em11-nl-a3825649.htmlRead 15 October 2026Heise spec list: Besonderheiten Daumenauflage.

Ring or pinky finger rest

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Upper shelliThe primary hand-contact shell. An open or perforated bottom alone does not make the upper shell perforated.

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Swappable parts

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Adjustable weight

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Maximum added weightiTotal removable weight supplied with the mouse, excluding the mouse’s normal weight.

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Vertical angle

57°1Maker product pagelogitech.com/en-us/shop/p/lift-vertical-ergonomic-mouseRead 10 October 2026FAQ: 57-degree vertical angle6Press releasenews.logitech.com/press-releases/news-details/2022/Meet-Lift-Logitechs-New-Vertical-Ergonomic-MouseRead 10 October 202657-degree vertical design

58°1Maker product pageprotoarc.com/products/em11-nl-vertical-mouseRead 15 October 2026Page image says 58 degrees Ergonomic Comfort Angle.

Trackball diameter

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Trackball position

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Dimensions and weight

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Mouse body dimensionsiLength from front to rear, width at the widest body point, and maximum height. Cable and receiver are excluded. Approximate maker figures are qualified in source notes. Logitech pages often label the front-to-rear length Height and the body height Depth, so map the figures by size.

Length108Maximum width70Maximum height71mm(4.3 × 2.8 × 2.8 in)1Maker product pagelogitech.com/en-us/shop/p/lift-vertical-ergonomic-mouseRead 10 October 2026Page labels: Height 108 mm, Width 70 mm, Depth 71 mm. The Lift for Business spec page labels Height 71 mm and Depth 108 mm. Tom's Guide lists 4.3 x 2.8 x 2.7 inches. Stored as length 108, width 70, height 71. See doubts2Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/17743180034327Read 10 October 2026Product Dimensions table: 108 mm, 70 mm, 71 mm under Height, Width, Depth3Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/5127068017303-Specification-LIFT-Vertical-Ergonomic-MouseRead 10 October 2026

Length138Maximum width69.2Maximum height68.1mm(5.4 × 2.7 × 2.7 in)1Maker product pageprotoarc.com/products/em11-nl-vertical-mouseRead 15 October 2026Specs tab lists Height 68.1 mm, Width 69.2 mm and Depth 138 mm. The manual lists 138 x 69.2 x 68.1 mm. Stored as length 138, width 69.2 and height 68.1. Page image shows 5.43 in long, 2.72 in wide and 2.67 in high.

Grip widthiBody width where the thumb and opposite grip finger sit. This differs from maximum body width.

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Mouse weight (claimed)iWireless mice include the battery. When the maker does not say whether a removable battery is in the weight, the published weight is stored and the source note says so. Wired mice exclude the cable. Source notes identify installed skates, colour, approximation, tolerance or a published bound.

125g(4.4 oz)1Maker product pagelogitech.com/en-us/shop/p/lift-vertical-ergonomic-mouseRead 10 October 2026Page: 4.41 oz (125 g). The older support spec says 124 g2Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/17743180034327Read 10 October 2026Mouse: 125 g (4.4 oz). The page does not say whether the AA battery is included3Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/5127068017303-Specification-LIFT-Vertical-Ergonomic-MouseRead 10 October 2026Older support spec: 124 g

112g(4 oz)1Maker product pageprotoarc.com/products/em11-nl-vertical-mouseRead 15 October 2026Specs tab lists 3.9 oz (112 g). The English manual lists the same value. Includes the built-in battery. Colour not stated. The German manual revised in 2026 lists 4.2 oz (119 g) for the same mouse and a German test article lists 116 g. The US page and English manual value is stored.

Box dimensions

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Packed weightiMouse, packaging and included accessories. Shipping-service weight is not evidence of packed weight.

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Sensor

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Marketed sensor nameiMaker’s sensor branding, or reviewer identification when the maker does not publish one. The physical part number is recorded separately.

Pluto One3Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/5127068017303-Specification-LIFT-Vertical-Ergonomic-MouseRead 10 October 2026Mouse Specifications: Sensor Pluto One. The newer Specification article names it Logitech Advanced Optical Tracking

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Published sensor brandiSensor brand or trademark named by the source, which may be the mouse maker’s proprietary branding. Physical silicon manufacturer and part number are separate facts.

Logitech2Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/17743180034327Read 10 October 2026Sensor: Logitech Advanced Optical Tracking. The maker brands the sensor as its own

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Physical sensor part numberiExact physical sensor family or part identified by the maker or an exact-model reviewer. Do not infer it from DPI, speed or a sibling mouse.

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Sensor type

Optical7Reviewpcworld.com/article/782535/logitech-lift-review.htmlRead 10 October 2026Spec list: Sensor type Optical

Optical1Maker product pageprotoarc.com/products/em11-nl-vertical-mouseRead 15 October 2026Specs tab lists Engine: Optical.

Maximum configurable DPIiMaximum selectable DPI with the documented firmware. Later firmware increases are noted in sources. The sensor chip’s theoretical maximum is not the mouse’s maximum.

4,000DPI1Maker product pagelogitech.com/en-us/shop/p/lift-vertical-ergonomic-mouseRead 10 October 2026FAQ and spec facet: up to 4000 DPI. Spec: 400-4000 dpi, fully adjustable with 100 DPI increments. Nominal value 1000 DPI2Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/17743180034327Read 10 October 2026Resolution: 400 - 4,000 DPI, nominal value: 1000 DPI. The older article names the sensor Pluto One. This one says Logitech Advanced Optical Tracking3Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/5127068017303-Specification-LIFT-Vertical-Ergonomic-MouseRead 10 October 2026

2,400DPI1Maker product pageprotoarc.com/products/em11-nl-vertical-mouseRead 15 October 2026Specs tab lists DPI 1000/1600/2400. These three levels are the only documented settings, so 2400 is the highest and 1000 the lowest.

Minimum configurable DPIiLowest selectable sensitivity on this mouse. Factory presets do not establish its minimum.

400DPI1Maker product pagelogitech.com/en-us/shop/p/lift-vertical-ergonomic-mouseRead 10 October 20262Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/17743180034327Read 10 October 20263Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/5127068017303-Specification-LIFT-Vertical-Ergonomic-MouseRead 10 October 2026

1,000DPI1Maker product pageprotoarc.com/products/em11-nl-vertical-mouseRead 15 October 2026Specs tab lists DPI 1000/1600/2400. These three levels are the only documented settings.

DPI adjustment stepiSmallest documented configuration increment, not the spacing between factory presets.

100DPI1Maker product pagelogitech.com/en-us/shop/p/lift-vertical-ergonomic-mouseRead 10 October 2026Spec facet: fully adjustable with 100 DPI increments

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Maximum DPI stagesiMaximum number of selectable sensitivity presets saved at once, not the number of distinct supported DPI values.

24Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/5127047425303-Getting-Started-LIFT-Vertical-Ergonomic-MouseRead 10 October 2026The cursor speed switch toggles between two cursor speeds

31Maker product pageprotoarc.com/products/em11-nl-vertical-mouseRead 15 October 2026The DPI button steps through three levels (1000, 1600, 2400). The FAQ confirms the cycle. The maker lists no driver or configuration software for the EM11 NL, so no other levels exist.

Default DPI presetsiFactory preset sensitivity values for the exact model and firmware. Source notes distinguish different factory profiles.

1,000, 1,600DPI4Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/5127047425303-Getting-Started-LIFT-Vertical-Ergonomic-MouseRead 10 October 2026Cursor speed 1: 1000 DPI. Cursor speed 2: 1600 DPI

1,000, 1,600, 2,400DPI1Maker product pageprotoarc.com/products/em11-nl-vertical-mouseRead 15 October 2026Page image shows 1000 DPI, 1600 DPI and 2400 DPI as the three levels of the DPI button.

Separate X and Y DPI

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Tracking speed (claimed)iMaker or published product specification, in inches per second. If the source says more than a value, that numeric threshold is stored and qualified in the source note. Do not read it as an exact ceiling.

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Tracking acceleration (claimed)iMaximum tracking acceleration in multiples of gravitational acceleration, not mouse weight. A source saying more than a value is retained as a qualified threshold in the source note.

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Lift-off distance settingsiOnly documented selectable lift-off values, or one documented fixed value. A minimum, approximate measured result or unquantified range does not establish a complete option list.

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Separate lift and landing distance

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Surface calibrationiSensor calibration for a tracking surface. Adjustable lift-off distance or copying sensitivity from another mouse alone does not establish this feature.

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Motion SynciWhether sensor motion synchronization is supported. Polling-rate restrictions and default state belong in source notes.

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Angle snapping

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Ripple control

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Tracks on glass

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Sensor position

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Performance

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Documented polling rates by connectioniOne row per documented usable rate and connection. Receiver and firmware requirements are noted. Maximum-only claims do not imply all intermediate settings or the same ceiling over USB.

ALogitech Lift Vertical Ergonomic Mouse

Data connection	Polling rate (Hz)	Receiver requirement
2.4 GHz	133	Logi Bolt USB receiver

Source2Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/17743180034327Read 10 October 2026Mouse Specifications: BOLT report rate 7.5 ms, stored as 133 Hz (1 / 7.5 ms is 133.3 Hz). The Bolt receiver reports to the computer over USB at 1 ms. Bluetooth report rate is 7.5 to 11.25 ms and is not stored because it is a range, not one rate. A review states 133 Hz on Bolt

BProtoArc EM11 NL

Data connection	Polling rate (Hz)	Receiver requirement
2.4 GHz	250	included USB receiver
Bluetooth	125	Not available

Source4Owner's manualcdn.shopifycdn.net/s/files/1/0551/3972/9497/files/EM11_NL_User_Manual.pdfRead 15 October 2026Specifications panel lists Frequency 250 Hz under 2.4G Wireless Transmission Parameters and Frequency 125 Hz under Bluetooth Transmission Parameters. Read as the report rate. A German test measured about 250 Hz on the receiver and about 100 Hz on Bluetooth.

Max polling rate

133Hz=CalculatedFrom Documented polling rates by connection

250Hz=CalculatedFrom Documented polling rates by connection

Polling rate (wired)

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Polling rate (2.4 GHz)

133Hz=CalculatedFrom Documented polling rates by connection

250Hz=CalculatedFrom Documented polling rates by connection

Polling rate (Bluetooth)

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125Hz=CalculatedFrom Documented polling rates by connection

Claimed click latencyiAbsolute click-latency claim from the maker. A relative improvement is not absolute latency. Source notes give polling mode and whether the number is an average, bound or best case.

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Adjustable debounce

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Minimum debounceiLowest documented debounce setting or fixed main-switch debounce delay. Click response time or total click latency is not the same quantity.

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Measured

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Latency per connection (measured)iReviewer measurements for an identified connection, polling rate, firmware and settings. Click and sensor latency use different test methods and are not interchangeable.

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DPI deviation (measured)iReviewer measurement of deviation from a specified DPI value. Test DPI, travel speed, distance and method belong in source notes.

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Lift-off distance (measured)iReviewer-measured lift-off height at the lowest setting, on the specified surface. Do not store the maker’s selectable LOD here.

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Main click force (measured)iReviewer-measured main-button actuation force in gram-force. Not the mouse weight and not an electrical latency measure.

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Weight (measured)iReviewer scale measurement. Include battery for wireless mice and exclude cable for wired mice. Source notes identify colour and installed skates.

133.4g(4.7 oz)10Measurementrtings.com/mouse/reviews/logitech/liftRead 10 October 2026Default Weight 133.4 g. Only the public summary values are used. The detailed test results are for members. Logitech states 125 g

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Battery life (measured)iReviewer-measured runtime from a stated test, not a claim, forecast or extrapolation. Polling, lighting and other power settings must be identified.

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Hand size fitiExact-model reviewer fit assessment. Source notes define the hand-length bands and tested grip. Do not translate general praise into every size fitting.

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Switches

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Main switch typeiActuation technology for the left and right main buttons. Hybrid means optical-mechanical. Inductive analog switches detect travel by induction.

Mechanical12Reviewifixit.com/Teardown/Logitech+Lift+Teardown/183260Read 10 October 2026iFixit teardown step 21: the primary buttons are PCB-mounted 6.2 x 6.2 x 7.3 mm micro switches with a 5 mm pin pitch. The article says no brand for the factory switches, so main_switch_brand and main_switch_model stay empty. Stored as mechanical because the switch is a physical micro switch

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Published main-switch brandiBrand named for the main switches. Proprietary Razer, Pulsar, Glorious or Logitech branding does not identify the physical contract manufacturer.

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Main switch model

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Main switch rated lifeiManufacturer or component rating for the main left/right switches, in millions of actuations. This is not a whole-mouse durability measurement.

5million2Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/17743180034327Read 10 October 2026Left and right silent buttons: 5-million clicks. Wheel middle click 1 million. Forward and back 500K

3million1Maker product pageprotoarc.com/products/em11-nl-vertical-mouseRead 15 October 2026Specs tab lists Click Life: 3 million+. Stored as the 3 million threshold.

Hot-swap main switchesiMain switches can be changed without soldering. Opening the case or using a switch pack can still be required.

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Adjustable click actuationiThe point where a main click registers can be configured. Debounce adjustment changes timing, not actuation travel.

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Separate main buttons

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Side switch model

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Middle click switch

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Scroll encoder type

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Scroll encoder

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Buttons and scroll wheel

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Physical button inputsiIncludes left/right, wheel click, each wheel-tilt direction, DPI/report-rate/profile buttons and a wheel-mode pushbutton. Excludes scroll rotation, power sliders and connection sliders. A connection pushbutton, such as Logitech Easy-Switch, counts even when the maker's own count leaves it out. A button that only switches power does not. Counts each physical input once.

71Maker product pagelogitech.com/en-us/shop/p/lift-vertical-ergonomic-mouseRead 10 October 2026Spec facet: 6 (Left/Right-click, Back/Forward, Middle button, Scroll-wheel with middle click). The Easy-Switch pushbutton on the bottom is not in the maker count. The field definition counts connection pushbuttons, so the stored count is 72Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/17743180034327Read 10 October 20266 buttons (Left/Right-click, Back/Forward, Middle button, Scroll-wheel with middle click)7Reviewpcworld.com/article/782535/logitech-lift-review.htmlRead 10 October 20266 total: left and right click, scroll wheel with click, middle button, and two thumb buttons

74Owner's manualcdn.shopifycdn.net/s/files/1/0551/3972/9497/files/EM11_NL_User_Manual.pdfRead 15 October 2026Product Features diagram labels Left, Right, Scroll Wheel, DPI Button, Forward Button, Backward Button and Channel Switch Button. The power switch is not counted. Indicators are not buttons.

Programmable buttonsiNumber of physical button inputs that can be remapped. Excludes scroll-up/down actions, alternate software layers and non-programmable mode controls.

47Reviewpcworld.com/article/782535/logitech-lift-review.htmlRead 10 October 2026Review: all buttons except left and right click can be customized, four buttons in total. Matches Logitech's 6 buttons minus left and right click

05Maker product pageprotoarc.com/pages/faq-em11-nl-em11Read 15 October 2026FAQ: the mouse buttons are not programmable.

Side buttonsiButtons on the thumb-facing side walls, including a side DPI-shift button. Top buttons beside the main click plate and bottom setting buttons are excluded.

21Maker product pagelogitech.com/en-us/shop/p/lift-vertical-ergonomic-mouseRead 10 October 20267Reviewpcworld.com/article/782535/logitech-lift-review.htmlRead 10 October 2026

24Owner's manualcdn.shopifycdn.net/s/files/1/0551/3972/9497/files/EM11_NL_User_Manual.pdfRead 15 October 2026Forward and Backward buttons (M and N) sit on the thumb side wall.

Side buttons on

Left7Reviewpcworld.com/article/782535/logitech-lift-review.htmlRead 10 October 2026Two narrow buttons on the thumb side of the mouse, the left side of the right-handed Lift9Reviewtomsguide.com/reviews/logitech-liftRead 10 October 2026Two programmable thumb buttons on the left side of the mouse

Left4Owner's manualcdn.shopifycdn.net/s/files/1/0551/3972/9497/files/EM11_NL_User_Manual.pdfRead 15 October 2026Forward and Backward buttons sit on the thumb side wall of this right-handed mouse, which is the left wall.

DPI buttoniA physical pushbutton that changes sensitivity. A button shared with power or report rate still counts. Software-only switching does not.

Yes4Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/5127047425303-Getting-Started-LIFT-Vertical-Ergonomic-MouseRead 10 October 20267Reviewpcworld.com/article/782535/logitech-lift-review.htmlRead 10 October 2026

Yes4Owner's manualcdn.shopifycdn.net/s/files/1/0551/3972/9497/files/EM11_NL_User_Manual.pdfRead 15 October 2026Diagram label E: DPI Button.

DPI button position

Top7Reviewpcworld.com/article/782535/logitech-lift-review.htmlRead 10 October 2026A small round button just below the click buttons, below the scroll wheel8Reviewdexerto.com/tech/logitech-lift-vertical-ergonomic-mouse-review-2075617Read 10 October 2026DPI button sits directly below the scroll wheel

Top4Owner's manualcdn.shopifycdn.net/s/files/1/0551/3972/9497/files/EM11_NL_User_Manual.pdfRead 15 October 2026Diagram shows the DPI button on the top shell beside the scroll wheel.

Profile buttoniA dedicated physical profile-switch button. A remappable input that could be assigned this action does not prove a dedicated control.

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Dedicated DPI-shift buttoniDedicated physical control for temporarily switching sensitivity while held. A software-remappable input is not automatically a dedicated sniper control.

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Dedicated gesture buttoniA dedicated physical gesture control. Assigning a gesture action to a remappable button does not establish a separate gesture button.

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Scroll wheel

Notched, Free spin4Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/5127047425303-Getting-Started-LIFT-Vertical-Ergonomic-MouseRead 10 October 2026SmartWheel: a magnetic wheel with line-by-line ratchet scroll and speed inertia scroll

Notched5Maker product pageprotoarc.com/pages/faq-em11-nl-em11Read 15 October 2026FAQ: the scroll wheel operates in a gear-like manner and does not spin freely.8Reviewtechtest.org/vertikal-maus-ideal-fuer-die-bueroarbeit-protoarc-em11-nl-im-testRead 15 October 2026Review dated 2024-12-19 says the individual scroll steps could be better defined, which agrees with a notched wheel.

Scroll mode switchiHow the wheel changes between notched and free-spin modes. None means there is no such mode-switch mechanism.

Automatic4Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/5127047425303-Getting-Started-LIFT-Vertical-Ergonomic-MouseRead 10 October 2026The magnetic wheel switches between the two scrolling styles with the flick of your finger

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Separate thumb wheeliA separate side wheel operated by the thumb. Tilting the central scroll wheel does not count.

No1Maker product pagelogitech.com/en-us/shop/p/lift-vertical-ergonomic-mouseRead 10 October 2026FAQ: no dedicated side scroll wheel. Horizontal scroll shortcuts can be mapped in Logi Options+4Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/5127047425303-Getting-Started-LIFT-Vertical-Ergonomic-MouseRead 10 October 2026Horizontal scroll: hold a side button and turn the wheel

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Scroll wheel material

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Build

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Shell material

Plastic, polymer unspecified3Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/5127068017303-Specification-LIFT-Vertical-Ergonomic-MouseRead 10 October 2026Materials used: post-consumer recycled (PCR) plastic and rubber

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Surface finishiPublished surface finish, such as matte or textured. Soft-feel wording does not establish rubber material or a chemical coating.

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Installed feet materialiMaterial of the factory-installed skates, excluding separately supplied replacements or dot skates. Virgin PTFE means additive-free or explicitly virgin-grade PTFE.

PTFE2Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/17743180034327Read 10 October 2026Durability feet: PTFE feet, 100 km range

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Installed skate piecesiNumber of separate factory-installed skate pieces, including a sensor ring. Excludes spare skates supplied in the box.

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Feet shapeiGeometry of the installed skates. Pads plus a sensor ring are mixed. Separate dots are dots.

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Feet thickness

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Cable

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Cable

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Cable length

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Detachable cableiThe cable unplugs from an external socket on the mouse without opening it. A service-replaceable internal cable does not count.

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Port on mouseiExternally accessible data/charging socket on the mouse. A fixed cable is none. USB-C describes the connector, not a transfer-speed version.

None3Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/5127068017303-Specification-LIFT-Vertical-Ergonomic-MouseRead 10 October 2026Corded or wireless: Wireless. The page lists no port

USB-C4Owner's manualcdn.shopifycdn.net/s/files/1/0551/3972/9497/files/EM11_NL_User_Manual.pdfRead 15 October 2026Diagram label F: Type-C Charging Port.

Cable host plugiConnector on the computer end of the supplied or fixed cable, independent of the mouse-end connector.

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USB-A5Maker product pageprotoarc.com/pages/faq-em11-nl-em11Read 15 October 2026FAQ: the mouse can only be charged with USB A to USB C charging cables.

Connectivity

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ConnectionsiConnections that carry mouse input data. A USB cable used only for charging does not establish wired USB operation.

Bluetooth, 2.4 GHz1Maker product pagelogitech.com/en-us/shop/p/lift-vertical-ergonomic-mouseRead 10 October 2026Spec facet: Logi Bolt USB receiver (included) and Bluetooth Low Energy2Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/17743180034327Read 10 October 2026Connection Type: Logi BOLT USB receiver, Bluetooth Low Energy

2.4 GHz, Bluetooth1Maker product pageprotoarc.com/products/em11-nl-vertical-mouseRead 15 October 2026Specs tab lists USB Receiver and Bluetooth low energy technology. No data cable mode is listed. The Type-C port only charges.

Wireless technology

Logi Bolt1Maker product pagelogitech.com/en-us/shop/p/lift-vertical-ergonomic-mouseRead 10 October 2026Logi Bolt USB receiver

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BluetoothiThe version number only, such as 5.1. LE and Low Energy are left out. A source that names only Bluetooth Low Energy gives no version.

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5.01Maker product pageprotoarc.com/products/em11-nl-vertical-mouseRead 15 October 2026Feature list and a page image say Bluetooth 5.0. The older description paragraph on the same page says Bluetooth 4.0. The manual only says Bluetooth Low Energy. Stored 5.0 from the feature list.

Saved Bluetooth pairing slotsiNumber of Bluetooth hosts whose pairing the mouse remembers. A limit of one concurrently connected host does not establish the number of saved slots.

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21Maker product pageprotoarc.com/products/em11-nl-vertical-mouseRead 15 October 2026Page and manual list two Bluetooth channels (Bluetooth 1 and Bluetooth 2) plus the 2.4G receiver for 3 devices.

Switchable host devicesiNumber of host devices selectable through the documented mouse controls without manually moving a data cable. Not the number of physical receivers or simultaneous active links alone.

31Maker product pagelogitech.com/en-us/shop/p/lift-vertical-ergonomic-mouseRead 10 October 2026FAQ: Easy-Switch pairs and toggles between up to 3 devices

31Maker product pageprotoarc.com/products/em11-nl-vertical-mouseRead 15 October 2026Page says triple connectivity for 3-device switching: dual Bluetooth plus the 2.4G USB-A receiver.

Device switching

Button4Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/5127047425303-Getting-Started-LIFT-Vertical-Ergonomic-MouseRead 10 October 2026The Easy-Switch button is on the bottom of the mouse7Reviewpcworld.com/article/782535/logitech-lift-review.htmlRead 10 October 2026A button on the underside switches between up to three connected devices

Button4Owner's manualcdn.shopifycdn.net/s/files/1/0551/3972/9497/files/EM11_NL_User_Manual.pdfRead 15 October 2026A channel switch button on the underside cycles 2.4G, Bluetooth 1 and Bluetooth 2.

Receiver host connectoriHost plug on the included small receiver. A larger cabled receiver is described in source notes. This differs from the charging cable’s plug.

USB-A4Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/5127047425303-Getting-Started-LIFT-Vertical-Ergonomic-MouseRead 10 October 2026Plug the Logi Bolt receiver into a USB-A port on your computer

USB-A1Maker product pageprotoarc.com/products/em11-nl-vertical-mouseRead 15 October 2026Page says 2.4G USB-A receiver.

Receiver storage in mouse

Yes4Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/5127047425303-Getting-Started-LIFT-Vertical-Ergonomic-MouseRead 10 October 2026Open the battery door and take out the Logi Bolt receiver7Reviewpcworld.com/article/782535/logitech-lift-review.htmlRead 10 October 2026A magnetic plate on the underside hides the AA battery and the 2.4GHz wireless receiver

Yes4Owner's manualcdn.shopifycdn.net/s/files/1/0551/3972/9497/files/EM11_NL_User_Manual.pdfRead 15 October 2026Setup step 2 says to take out the receiver from the mouse underside.

Receiver extender includediAn included adapter, dock or cabled receiver arrangement moves the receiver closer to the mouse. A charging-only adapter does not count.

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No4Owner's manualcdn.shopifycdn.net/s/files/1/0551/3972/9497/files/EM11_NL_User_Manual.pdfRead 15 October 2026Package List is complete: wireless mouse, Type-C charging cable, USB receiver and user manual. No extender.

Receiver pairing sharediA receiver can pair with another supported device, such as a keyboard, at the same time. This does not mean the mouse switches between computers.

Yes13Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/1500007361841-How-to-connect-multiple-Bolt-devices-to-one-receiverRead 10 October 2026Up to six Logi Bolt mice and keyboards can be paired to a single Logi Bolt USB receiver. The article does not name Lift. Lift ships with a Logi Bolt USB receiver

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Wireless rangeiPublished range and test conditions. A recommended receiver distance or minimum reliable range is not an exact maximum.

10m1Maker product pagelogitech.com/en-us/shop/p/lift-vertical-ergonomic-mouseRead 10 October 2026Spec facet: 32.8 ft (10 m) wireless range. Range may vary with the operating environment3Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/5127068017303-Specification-LIFT-Vertical-Ergonomic-MouseRead 10 October 2026Wireless range 10 m

8m1Maker product pageprotoarc.com/products/em11-nl-vertical-mouseRead 15 October 2026Specs tab lists Wireless operating distance: 8 m (26 ft). The English manual agrees. The German manual revised in 2026 lists 10 m for both Bluetooth and 2.4G. Test conditions not stated. The US page value is stored.

Basic mouse OS supportiOperating systems supported for basic input. Configuration software support is listed separately and may require a newer OS version.

Windows, macOS, Linux, ChromeOS, iPadOS, Android1Maker product pagelogitech.com/en-us/shop/p/lift-vertical-ergonomic-mouseRead 10 October 2026Bluetooth: Windows 10, 11 or later, macOS 10.15 or later, iPadOS 14 or later, ChromeOS, Linux, Android 8 or later. Basic functions work without drivers on systems other than Windows and macOS2Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/17743180034327Read 10 October 2026System requirements: Windows, macOS, iPadOS, ChromeOS, Linux, Android 8 or later6Press releasenews.logitech.com/press-releases/news-details/2022/Meet-Lift-Logitechs-New-Vertical-Ergonomic-MouseRead 10 October 2026

Windows, macOS, Android1Maker product pageprotoarc.com/products/em11-nl-vertical-mouseRead 15 October 2026System requirements: receiver works with Windows XP, 7, 8, 10 or later and macOS 10.12 or later. Bluetooth works with Windows 8, 10 or later, macOS 10.12 or later and Android 4.3 or later. Forward and Backward buttons are not suitable for macOS.

ConsolesiConsole families explicitly supported. Source notes identify exact consoles, games and reduced polling or software functions.

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Battery

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Battery type

AA1Maker product pagelogitech.com/en-us/shop/p/lift-vertical-ergonomic-mouseRead 10 October 20263Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/5127068017303-Specification-LIFT-Vertical-Ergonomic-MouseRead 10 October 2026Battery details: AAx1

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Disposable battery countiNumber of disposable cells, such as AA or AAA. Do not use this field for internal rechargeable cells.

11Maker product pagelogitech.com/en-us/shop/p/lift-vertical-ergonomic-mouseRead 10 October 20263Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/5127068017303-Specification-LIFT-Vertical-Ergonomic-MouseRead 10 October 2026

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Battery capacityiPublished or physically identified internal battery capacity. Do not calculate mAh from claimed runtime or compare capacities across unverified hardware revisions.

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500mAh1Maker product pageprotoarc.com/products/em11-nl-vertical-mouseRead 15 October 2026Specs tab lists a rechargeable 500 mAh battery. It names the chemistry Li-Po in the specs and Li-Ion in the description, so no battery type is stored.

User-replaceable batteryiBattery replacement is a supported user procedure. The ability to open and modify the mouse does not establish this feature.

Yes3Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/5127068017303-Specification-LIFT-Vertical-Ergonomic-MouseRead 10 October 2026Is the battery user replaceable? Yes

No1Maker product pageprotoarc.com/products/em11-nl-vertical-mouseRead 15 October 2026Page describes a built-in rechargeable battery. No replacement procedure is given.

Battery life by mode (claimed)iOne manufacturer or published product claim per documented connection, polling rate and lighting condition. Omit unstated conditions. Source notes identify performance, switch and haptic modes and whether runtime is up to a value.

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Battery life (up to)iManufacturer estimate of days of normal use between full charges. This includes periods when the mouse is idle. It is not continuous runtime. Source notes preserve usage conditions and qualifiers when published. Do not convert this estimate to continuous hours.

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Battery life (normal use)iManufacturer estimate of calendar months of normal use between charges or battery replacements. It is not continuous runtime. Source notes retain approximate, up-to, or-more and operating-mode qualifiers. Do not convert this estimate to continuous hours.

24months1Maker product pagelogitech.com/en-us/shop/p/lift-vertical-ergonomic-mouseRead 10 October 2026Spec facet: up to 24 months. Battery life may vary based on user and computing conditions3Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/5127068017303-Specification-LIFT-Vertical-Ergonomic-MouseRead 10 October 2026Battery life (not rechargeable): 24 months

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Longest battery life

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Battery life at 1000 HziLongest stored claim explicitly at 1000 Hz over 2.4 GHz. A claim without a confirmed polling rate is excluded.

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Battery life on Bluetooth

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Charging port

None3Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/5127068017303-Specification-LIFT-Vertical-Ergonomic-MouseRead 10 October 2026Battery is not rechargeable

USB-C1Maker product pageprotoarc.com/products/em11-nl-vertical-mouseRead 15 October 2026Page lists Type-C charging.

Full charge timeiClaimed time from empty to full charge, in minutes. Approximation and charging setup are stated in source notes.

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180min4Owner's manualcdn.shopifycdn.net/s/files/1/0551/3972/9497/files/EM11_NL_User_Manual.pdfRead 15 October 2026How to Charge the Mouse: it will take 2-3 hours for charging, then the charging indicator turns off. Stored as the 3 hour upper bound. A page image caption says 4-5 hours charge.9Owner's manualcdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0551/3972/9497/files/EM11_NL_User_Manual_DE.pdfRead 15 October 2026German manual, page 15: charging takes 2 to 3 hours. This agrees with the English manual. The 3 hour upper bound is stored.

Quick charge

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Use while chargingiMouse input works while the internal battery charges through the documented wired or dock arrangement.

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Charging system compatibilityiNamed wireless charging pad or contact dock. Source notes distinguish inductive pads from pogo-pin contact charging.

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Charging dock included

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No4Owner's manualcdn.shopifycdn.net/s/files/1/0551/3972/9497/files/EM11_NL_User_Manual.pdfRead 15 October 2026Package List is complete and lists no dock. The mouse charges over its Type-C port.

Battery indicator

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LED4Owner's manualcdn.shopifycdn.net/s/files/1/0551/3972/9497/files/EM11_NL_User_Manual.pdfRead 15 October 2026A low-battery indicator light flashes red when the battery is low and stays on while charging.

Lighting

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Decorative RGB lightingiUser-configurable decorative lighting. A multicolour status, DPI or battery indicator alone is not decorative RGB.

No2Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/17743180034327Read 10 October 2026Indicator lights are only the 3 Easy-Switch channel LEDs on the bottom. The page lists no other lighting

No5Maker product pageprotoarc.com/pages/faq-em11-nl-em11Read 15 October 2026FAQ: the EM11 NL does not have an RGB light, but the EM11 does.

Decorative lighting zonesiNumber of independently controlled decorative lighting zones. Status indicator LEDs are excluded.

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Lighting sync

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DPI indicator

On screen4Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/5127047425303-Getting-Started-LIFT-Vertical-Ergonomic-MouseRead 10 October 2026Logi Options shows an on-screen notification when you switch between cursor speed 1 and 2

LED5Maker product pageprotoarc.com/pages/faq-em11-nl-em11Read 15 October 2026FAQ: a red light flashes once, twice or three times for 1000, 1600 or 2400 DPI.

Software

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Software

Logi Options+1Maker product pagelogitech.com/en-us/shop/p/lift-vertical-ergonomic-mouseRead 10 October 2026Logi Options+ is the optional customization app

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Configuration software platformsiPlatforms explicitly supported for configuring this exact model. Basic input compatibility and availability of a generic app on another platform do not establish model support.

Windows, macOS1Maker product pagelogitech.com/en-us/shop/p/lift-vertical-ergonomic-mouseRead 10 October 2026Logi Options+ is available on Windows and macOS

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Onboard memoryiDocumented settings remain available without configuration software running. Which settings persist is stated in source notes.

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Onboard profilesiMaximum distinct hardware-stored profiles. Software game profiles and factory preset profiles do not establish this maximum.

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Macros

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Macros stored onboardiMacros themselves execute from mouse memory without the configuration app. Onboard DPI or button assignments alone do not prove onboard macros.

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Button remapping

Yes7Reviewpcworld.com/article/782535/logitech-lift-review.htmlRead 10 October 2026All buttons except left and right click can be customized in Logi Options+

No5Maker product pageprotoarc.com/pages/faq-em11-nl-em11Read 15 October 2026FAQ: the mouse buttons are not programmable.

Per-app profiles

Yes7Reviewpcworld.com/article/782535/logitech-lift-review.htmlRead 10 October 2026Review: button actions can be set per app in Logi Options+, with presets for Adobe Creative Cloud, Microsoft Office, Chrome and Zoom11Reviewbinaryfork.com/logitech-lift-vertical-mouse-review-15463Read 10 October 2026Review: in Logi Options+ it is possible to set different button actions depending on the active app

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User firmware updatesiA public user-accessible updater or documented software firmware-update procedure exists for this exact model.

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In the box

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In the boxiDocumented contents of the specified colour or bundle. Installed parts and optional extras are distinguished in source notes.

Lift Vertical Ergonomic Mouse, Logi Bolt USB Receiver, 1 x AA Battery, Quick Start Guide1Maker product pagelogitech.com/en-us/shop/p/lift-vertical-ergonomic-mouseRead 10 October 2026Page In the Box: mouse, Logi Bolt USB Receiver, 1 x AA battery, Quick Start Guide2Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/17743180034327Read 10 October 2026

Wireless Mouse, Type-C charging cable, USB receiver, User manual4Owner's manualcdn.shopifycdn.net/s/files/1/0551/3972/9497/files/EM11_NL_User_Manual.pdfRead 15 October 2026Package List: 1 x Wireless Mouse, 1 x Type-C charging cable, 1 x USB receiver, 1 x User manual. The product page contents list omits the cable.

Cables included

ALogitech Lift Vertical Ergonomic Mouse

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BProtoArc EM11 NL

Type	Cable count
Type-C charging cable	1

Source4Owner's manualcdn.shopifycdn.net/s/files/1/0551/3972/9497/files/EM11_NL_User_Manual.pdfRead 15 October 2026Package List: 1 x Type-C charging cable.

Extra skates includediAn extra usable skate set is supplied separately from installed skates, including an alternative dot set. Factory protective film is not a spare skate.

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No4Owner's manualcdn.shopifycdn.net/s/files/1/0551/3972/9497/files/EM11_NL_User_Manual.pdfRead 15 October 2026Package List is complete and lists no spare skates.

Grip tape

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No4Owner's manualcdn.shopifycdn.net/s/files/1/0551/3972/9497/files/EM11_NL_User_Manual.pdfRead 15 October 2026Package List is complete and lists no grip tape.

Links

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Product page

www.logitech.com/en-us/shop/p/lift-vertical-ergonomic-mouse1Maker product pagelogitech.com/en-us/shop/p/lift-vertical-ergonomic-mouseRead 10 October 2026

protoarc.com/products/em11-nl-vertical-mouse1Maker product pageprotoarc.com/products/em11-nl-vertical-mouseRead 15 October 2026

Spec sheet

support.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/177431800343272Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/17743180034327Read 10 October 2026Current Specification article for the Lift Vertical Ergonomic Mouse, created 2023 and updated July 2026

protoarc.com/products/em11-nl-vertical-mouse1Maker product pageprotoarc.com/products/em11-nl-vertical-mouseRead 15 October 2026

Manual

support.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/5127047425303-Getting-Started-LIFT-Vertical-Ergonomic-Mouse4Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/5127047425303-Getting-Started-LIFT-Vertical-Ergonomic-MouseRead 10 October 2026Logitech Getting Started article for Lift. It is the maker's setup guide and has the parts diagram and control descriptions

cdn.shopifycdn.net/s/files/1/0551/3972/9497/files/EM11_NL_User_Manual.pdf4Owner's manualcdn.shopifycdn.net/s/files/1/0551/3972/9497/files/EM11_NL_User_Manual.pdfRead 15 October 2026

EPREL registration numberiId in the EU energy label database. Each size or model of a series has its own id, so it is per variant.

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Warranty

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Manufacturer warranty (source market)iThe maker's warranty period for the exact SKU or configuration and market named in the source note. It applies only to that stated market, not every regional variant. Statutory consumer rights are excluded. The base term is stored. An extension that needs registration goes in the source note.

1year5Maker product pagesupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/5127052826007-Warranty-LIFT-Vertical-Ergonomic-MouseRead 10 October 20261 year limited hardware warranty. English (US) help center page

2years1Maker product pageprotoarc.com/products/em11-nl-vertical-mouseRead 15 October 2026Page states a 2-Year Limited Hardware Warranty on the US store.

Both are also in the API. Back to all mice.